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	<title>Comments on: The Major Errors of KJV-Only</title>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan Sorensen - Obviously you don&#039;t want to &quot;interact,&quot; even though you comment, because your assertions will not stand examination.

I have quite clearly understood what you said, despite your incredibly poor writing.  The problem is that you are wrong.

All elements of the thought are there in both versions.  If you don&#039;t see that, it&#039;s not an English professor you need to see, but a primary school reading teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan Sorensen &#8211; Obviously you don&#8217;t want to &#8220;interact,&#8221; even though you comment, because your assertions will not stand examination.</p>
<p>I have quite clearly understood what you said, despite your incredibly poor writing.  The problem is that you are wrong.</p>
<p>All elements of the thought are there in both versions.  If you don&#8217;t see that, it&#8217;s not an English professor you need to see, but a primary school reading teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Sorensen</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-68529</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry Nuefeld, You claim to know Hebrew and Greek, but you seem to struggle with English, if you cannot tell the difference of the KJV, and the NASB in the passage of Isa.26:3

NASB; 
&quot;The steadfastness of mind you will keep in perfect peace, because he trusts in you&quot;

KJV;
&quot;Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee: Because he trusteth in thee&quot;

 The words &quot;because he trusts in you&quot; in the NASB, has no meaning, because there is no first premise laid in the text that referrences God as the object of steadfastness. 
 Faith must have an object.  I submit yo you , that if it was not for the fact that the KJV clearly identifies the object of faith that this person has his mind stayed on, (which someone can crossreferrence) this verse in the NASB, would make no sense at all.

The KJV emphasizes correctly according to the masoretic  Hebrew text, that the reason for God keeping this person in &quot;perfect peace&quot;, is because this person has stayed his mind  on God, the only entity that can give one perfect peace.

Just having or posessing a steadfast mind, does not mean the same as having ones mind stayed on God.

Having a steadfast mind, is a self actuated natural act, that can even be motivated by stubborness. And the added  &quot;for he trusts in you&quot; has no merrit to the first premise of a steadfast mind.

On the other hand, the first premise in the KJV, of the act of faith by having ones mind stayed on God,  (the object of faith)
is in total harmony with the God of the scriptures, which declare that &quot;without faith, it is impossible to please God&quot;.

If you think I am incorrect, then take this passage in both Bibles to an English professor at you local University, and after you have been corrected, sign up for English classes.

You obviously did not understand anything I said about the two pillars of the doctrine of scripture.

I am not interrested in interacting with you, just happened upon this site, and thought I needed to clarify.

Morgan Sorensen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Nuefeld, You claim to know Hebrew and Greek, but you seem to struggle with English, if you cannot tell the difference of the KJV, and the NASB in the passage of Isa.26:3</p>
<p>NASB;<br />
&#8220;The steadfastness of mind you will keep in perfect peace, because he trusts in you&#8221;</p>
<p>KJV;<br />
&#8220;Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee: Because he trusteth in thee&#8221;</p>
<p> The words &#8220;because he trusts in you&#8221; in the NASB, has no meaning, because there is no first premise laid in the text that referrences God as the object of steadfastness.<br />
 Faith must have an object.  I submit yo you , that if it was not for the fact that the KJV clearly identifies the object of faith that this person has his mind stayed on, (which someone can crossreferrence) this verse in the NASB, would make no sense at all.</p>
<p>The KJV emphasizes correctly according to the masoretic  Hebrew text, that the reason for God keeping this person in &#8220;perfect peace&#8221;, is because this person has stayed his mind  on God, the only entity that can give one perfect peace.</p>
<p>Just having or posessing a steadfast mind, does not mean the same as having ones mind stayed on God.</p>
<p>Having a steadfast mind, is a self actuated natural act, that can even be motivated by stubborness. And the added  &#8220;for he trusts in you&#8221; has no merrit to the first premise of a steadfast mind.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the first premise in the KJV, of the act of faith by having ones mind stayed on God,  (the object of faith)<br />
is in total harmony with the God of the scriptures, which declare that &#8220;without faith, it is impossible to please God&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you think I am incorrect, then take this passage in both Bibles to an English professor at you local University, and after you have been corrected, sign up for English classes.</p>
<p>You obviously did not understand anything I said about the two pillars of the doctrine of scripture.</p>
<p>I am not interrested in interacting with you, just happened upon this site, and thought I needed to clarify.</p>
<p>Morgan Sorensen</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-67603</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott-I&#039;m not sure precisely what your question is, as I have pointed out what I believe are logical difficulties with the KJV-Only position already.  Yes, I have empirical evidence, in that I can read both Hebrew and Greek and can check for myself, as well as consult substantial references for the source languages.

But if I get the direction your going, I think you&#039;re asking for a particular translation that I would advocate and claim was better than the KJV.  In answer to that I would simply say that one of my main objections to KJV-Only is that &lt;em&gt;no&lt;/em&gt; translation can be independently authoritative.  Thus I would never argue that some newer translation should be the one and only translation either.

I think the vast majority of modern translations are better than the KJV &lt;em&gt;for modern audiences&lt;/em&gt; simply because they know the language, whereas despite constant claims I hear to the contrary, many modern speakers of English &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; understand the KJV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott-I&#8217;m not sure precisely what your question is, as I have pointed out what I believe are logical difficulties with the KJV-Only position already.  Yes, I have empirical evidence, in that I can read both Hebrew and Greek and can check for myself, as well as consult substantial references for the source languages.</p>
<p>But if I get the direction your going, I think you&#8217;re asking for a particular translation that I would advocate and claim was better than the KJV.  In answer to that I would simply say that one of my main objections to KJV-Only is that <em>no</em> translation can be independently authoritative.  Thus I would never argue that some newer translation should be the one and only translation either.</p>
<p>I think the vast majority of modern translations are better than the KJV <em>for modern audiences</em> simply because they know the language, whereas despite constant claims I hear to the contrary, many modern speakers of English <em>don&#8217;t</em> understand the KJV.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-67525</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curious nature only,being a minor academic in the study of Gods word,but sincerely wanting truth only,do you believe to be a better translation than the KJV.I&#039;m not even sure if this is an appropriate question,because I know little about your website and your goals.Do you have empirical evidence that there is a better translation?Or is this just a hobby or witch-hunting?Sincerely curious.Thank you.

In Christ,Scotty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curious nature only,being a minor academic in the study of Gods word,but sincerely wanting truth only,do you believe to be a better translation than the KJV.I&#8217;m not even sure if this is an appropriate question,because I know little about your website and your goals.Do you have empirical evidence that there is a better translation?Or is this just a hobby or witch-hunting?Sincerely curious.Thank you.</p>
<p>In Christ,Scotty</p>
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		<title>By: Comment Exegesis &#171; εν εφέσω: Thoughts and Meditations</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-55355</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment Exegesis &#171; εν εφέσω: Thoughts and Meditations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Exegesis, Humor &#160;  A few days ago, I wrote a post about a comment that Henry Neufeld of the Participatory Bible Study Blog discussed. Somehow the whole affair turned into a &#8220;serious&#8221; exegesis of the comment - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Exegesis, Humor &nbsp;  A few days ago, I wrote a post about a comment that Henry Neufeld of the Participatory Bible Study Blog discussed. Somehow the whole affair turned into a &#8220;serious&#8221; exegesis of the comment &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-55229</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I am no longer KJVO, have been shown the error of my ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I am no longer KJVO, have been shown the error of my ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-55228</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry, growing up KJVO and then entering KJVO academia (ha!) I have come to expect nothing less than the vitriol that your commentator used. They will continue to use unbiblical behavior when defending their idol (yes, idol). They follow &#039;scholar&#039;, such as Gail and Gipp, etc... who have been proven to lead less than holy lives while using less than honest scholarship. I enjoyed your response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry, growing up KJVO and then entering KJVO academia (ha!) I have come to expect nothing less than the vitriol that your commentator used. They will continue to use unbiblical behavior when defending their idol (yes, idol). They follow &#8216;scholar&#8217;, such as Gail and Gipp, etc&#8230; who have been proven to lead less than holy lives while using less than honest scholarship. I enjoyed your response.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-55178</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and by that I mean &quot;promptly.&quot;


Yeah. Guess I was valedictorian there ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and by that I mean &#8220;promptly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. Guess I was valedictorian there <img src='http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. 

You did an incredible job replying back, considering the amount of vitriol and ad hominem attacks.  I probably would have said, &quot;Oh yeah, well... you&#039;re stupid. You probably graduated from dumbness school, too. Or something.&quot; and then promply stuck out my tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. </p>
<p>You did an incredible job replying back, considering the amount of vitriol and ad hominem attacks.  I probably would have said, &#8220;Oh yeah, well&#8230; you&#8217;re stupid. You probably graduated from dumbness school, too. Or something.&#8221; and then promply stuck out my tongue.</p>
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		<title>By: Scripture Zealot</title>
		<link>http://www.deepbiblestudy.net/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-55176</link>
		<dc:creator>Scripture Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s almost as annoying as using parenthesis all the time (although I do this often myself). Or even worse forgetting to close them (which is especially annoying.
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s almost as annoying as using parenthesis all the time (although I do this often myself). Or even worse forgetting to close them (which is especially annoying.<br />
Jeff</p>
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